19850605 Caitanya Caritamrita Adi Lila.14.21-36 This is Dirt This Is Dirt Mother Saci Defeats Mayavada Philosophy Atlanta
19850605_Caitanya_Caritamrita_Adi_Lila.14.21-36_This_is_Dirt_This_Is_Dirt_Mother_Saci_Defeats_May CC Ādi 14.21 abe kata dine prabhura jānu-caṅkramaṇa nānā camatkāra tathā karāila darśana TRANSLATION: After some days the Lord began to crawl on His knees, and He caused various wonderful things to be seen. (reading the purport) What Lila does that sound like? (devotees say something – not clear).Krishna lying on the bed of Ananta. CC Ādi 14.22 krandanera chale balāila hari-nāma nārī saba ‘hari’ bale, — hāse gaura-dhāma TRANSLATION: The Lord caused all the ladies to chant the holy names of the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra on the plea of His crying, and while they chanted the Lord would smile. (reading the purport) This is the easiest way to have the Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu always smiling upon one – is to be constantly chanting the mahamantra. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.23 tabe kata dine kaila pada-cańkramaṇa śiśu-gaṇe mili' kaila vividha khelana TRANSLATION After some days the Lord began to move His legs and walk. He mixed with other children and exhibited various sports. Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.24 ekadina śacī kha-i-sandeśa āniyā bāṭā bhari' diyā baila, — khāo ta' basiyā TRANSLATION One day while the Lord was enjoying His playful sports with the other little children, mother Śacī brought a dish filled with fused rice and sweetmeats and asked the child to sit down and eat them.
Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.25 eta bali' gelā śacī gṛhe karma karite lukāñā lāgilā śiśu mṛttikā khāite TRANSLATION But when she returned to her household duties, the child hid from His mother and began to eat dirt. Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.26 dekhi' śacī dhāñā āilā kari' 'hāya, hāya' māṭi kāḍi' lañā kahe 'māṭi kene khāya' TRANSLATION Seeing this, mother Śacī hastily returned and exclaimed, "What is this! What is this!" She snatched the dirt from the hands of the Lord and inquired why He was eating it. Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.27 kāndiyā balena śiśu, — kene kara roṣa tumi māṭi khāite dile, mora kibā doṣa TRANSLATION Crying, the child inquired from His mother, "Why are you angry? You have already given Me dirt to eat. What is My fault? Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.28 kha-i-sandeśa-anna yateka — māṭira vikāra eho māṭi, seha māṭi, ki bheda-vicāra TRANSLATION "Fused rice, sweetmeats and all other eatables are but transformations of dirt. This is dirt, that is dirt. Please consider. What is the difference between them? Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.29 māṭi — deha, māṭi — bhakṣya, dekhaha vicāri' avicāre deha doṣa, ki balite pāri TRANSLATION "This body is a transformation of dirt, and the eatables are also a transformation of dirt. Please reflect upon this. You are blaming Me without consideration. What can I say? Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.32 māṭira vikāra ghaṭe pāni bhari' āni māṭi-piṇḍe dhari yabe, śoṣi' yāya pāni" TRANSLATION "In a waterpot, which is a transformation of dirt, I can bring water very easily. But if I poured water on a lump of dirt, the lump would soak up the water, and my labor would be useless." (reading purport of 14.29) So Lord Caitanya is speaking Mayavadi philosophy at the age of 4 years old, testing His mother. Saying that cake, sweetmeats, dirt, it is all coming from dirt. It is all the different transformations of the same thing. So what is the difference? So this is the nature of impersonal philosophy. They try to make everything the same. Once there was a yogi in India. He was insisting God is one. Everyone is God. So when ISKCON preacher was preaching to that person… the person was wearing a big turban. He is just insisting – everything is God, God is one, everything is one. So then the preacher took of this big expensive silk turban and threw it in a river. He said “What are you doing? Just threw my turban in the river” “It’s all one. Whether it’s on your head or river, it’s all one.” (Devotees laughing.) And then He didn’t accept that that was one. (Devotees laughing.) Then he started to realize that everything was not one. So in this way Mayavadis’… their philosophy is totally not practical. It’s totally impractical. Lord Caitanya’s philosophy is acintya bedhabeda tattva. What does that mean? (devotee: Simulatneously one and different) Yeah (devotees laughing) Acintya bedhabedha – inconceivably simultaneously one and different. Difference and non-difference. So here mother Saci, she was put in a big difficult positon. Her son is eating dirt and saying, “Well it’s all dirt. Dust to dust. Ashes to ashes. It’s all dirt. Came from the earth. Going back to… well I’m eating it. What is the difference?” She had to come up with some quick answers to stop Lord Caitanya from eating dirt. What did she say? Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.30 antare vismita śacī balila tāhāre "māṭi khāite jñāna-yoga ke śikhāla tore TRANSLATION Astonished that the child was speaking Māyāvāda philosophy, mother Śacī replied, "Who has taught You this philosophical speculation that justifies eating dirt?" (reading purport) Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.31 māṭira vikāra anna khāile deha-puṣṭi haya māṭi khāile roga haya, deha yāya kṣaya TRANSLATION Replying to the Māyāvāda idea of the child philosopher, mother Śacī said, "My dear boy, if we eat earth transformed into grain, our body is nourished, and it becomes strong. But if we eat dirt in its crude state, the body becomes diseased instead of nourished, and thus it is destroyed. Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.32 māṭira vikāra ghaṭe pāni bhari' āni māṭi-piṇḍe dhari yabe, śoṣi' yāya pāni" TRANSLATION "In a waterpot, which is a transformation of dirt, I can bring water very easily. But if I poured water on a lump of dirt, the lump would soak up the water, and my labor would be useless." (reading purport) Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.33 ātma lukāite prabhu balilā tāńhāre "āge kena ihā, mātā, nā śikhāle more TRANSLATION The Lord replied to His mother, "Why did you conceal self-realization by not teaching Me this practical philosophy in the beginning? (reading purport) Janmad yasya yathah – what does janmad yasya yathah mean? Nandasuta? Is that correct? Parampara? (devotees answering – audio not clear) Who is correct? Nandasuta or Vedantasutra or Acaryaratna? (devotees answering – audio not clear. laughing) All in favour of Vedantasutra All in favour of Acryaratna. (devotees answering – audio not clear) Ah? (devotees answering – audio not clear) Acaryaratna? (devotees answering – audio not clear. laughing) Janma means birth. Janmayas…Janma asya yathah means that from which everything is created or coming. The verse that you are indicating is athatha brahma jijyasa (phone ringing) Which is also from the Vedantasutra. Ah? (devotees answering – audio not clear. laughing) Which (can’t understand 20.21) (devotees laughing) (Continues reading purport) So this is the Acintya bedhabedha. The inconceivable non separation and distinction. That although everything is non-separated from Krishna yet, there is a distinction. It’s not that this material world is Krishna. Yet it’s not separate from Krishna. So things are non-separated from Krishna at the same time they are the same. How they remain there in their distinctive nature is inconceivable. It’s to be understood, because the mayavadis they say that everything is one. Everyone is god. And simply they’ve forgotten. And when they remember then they realise that everyone is God. The question is they’ve forgotten that means they’ve fallen in Maya. So if maya is so powerful that it can make you forget that you are God… that means Maya is more powerful than God. Therefore, that means Maya is God. Because God must be the most powerful. So therefore they are called mayavadis. Because what they are saying is that maya is even more powerful than God. If we accept that everyone is God that means we are in Maya. That means Maya is even greater than God. But if you accept that there is a difference between the minute particle and the Supreme entity. Then it is possible that the minute particles can be covered by Maya while the Supreme entity is not in Maya. Which is the actual philosophy. So Lord Caitanya in conclusion says: Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.34 ebe se jānilāń, āra māṭi nā khāiba kṣudhā lāge yabe, tabe tomāra stana piba" Actually Lord Caitanya is about just 2 years when he is speaking this. He is just walking. Still taking His mother’s breast milk. TRANSLATION "Now that I can understand this philosophy, no more shall I eat dirt. Whenever I am hungry I shall suck your breast and drink your breast milk."
CC Ādi 14.34
eta bali' jananīra kolete caḍiyā stana pāna kare prabhu īṣat hāsiyā TRANSLATION After saying this, the Lord, smiling slightly, climbed on the lap of His mother and sucked her breast. Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 14.36 eimate nānā-chale aiśvarya dekhāya bālya-bhāva prakaṭiyā paścāt lukāya TRANSLATION Thus under various excuses the Lord exhibited His opulences as much as possible in His childhood, and later, after exhibiting such opulences, He hid Himself.
One minute Lord Caitanya would show inconceivable pastimes. Like laying on a … having a cobra coil up and He laying on the cobra, eating dirt and then talking very high philosophy just as a small infant and the next minute He is playing just as a case of little infant. And the parents will forget that. Nitai Gaura Premanande Hari Hari Bol Jai Sri Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu Vishvambharo ki (Devotees: JAI) Jai Sri Nityananda Avadhuta Doyamoya ki (Devotees: JAI) Gaur Premanande Show the deities Devotees: Hari Haribol GM Singing: Jai Nitai Gaurango Nitai Devotees Singing: Jai Gaurango GM Singing: Jai Nitai Gaurango Devotees Singing: Jai Nitai Gaurango So in this way the Lord comes down out of His internal potency. But He is covered by the Yoga maya so that the devotees cannot always recognize Him. But sometimes they can recognize Him. But the non-devotees, they cannot recognize Him at all because they are covered by Mahamaya. So those who are purified, they can see that these deity forms of the lord are actually Lord Caitanya and Nityanada Themselves. Supreme Personality of Godhead having come down to this material world to benedict the devotees. To benedict the fallen souls. JAI Tags: This is dirt that is dirt; mother saci defeats Mayavadi philosophy Transcriber: Hemagopi Devi Dasi Submitted on: 10-Apr-2016