19851031 Caitanya Caritamrita Madhya Lila 16 158 All These People Have Become Madman

The following is a class given by His Holiness Jayapataka Swami on October 31st, 1985

The class begins with a reading from the Chaitanya Caritamrta.

Jaya Sri Krishna Chaitanya Prabhu Nityananda Sri Advaita Gadadhara Srivas Adi Gaura Bhakta Vrnda.

tāṅra bhaye pathe keha nāre calibāra

He informed the Lord that the territory ahead was ruled by a Muslim governor who was a drunkard. Out of fear of this king, no one could walk the road freely.

pichaladā paryanta saba tāṅra adhikāra

tāṅra bhaye nadī keha haite nāre pāra

The jurisdiction of the Mohammedan government extended up to Pichaladā. Due to fear of the Mohammedans, no one would cross the river.

The Muslim governor seemed to be in charge of part of the district known as Tamaluka. (various sounds come from background)

Prabhupada says in the purport:

"During the old days, Pichaladā was part of Tamluk and Bengal. Pichaladā is located about fourteen miles south of Tamluk. The river Rūpa-nārāyaṇa is well known in Tamluk, and Pichaladā was situated on the bank of the Rūpa-nārāyaṇa River."

This is just one part, I'll explain that feudal system. There's landlords, and then governors, or, and then there's small kings called rajas. Then there's bigger kings, when they have many small kings under them they're called maharajas. And then there's emperors called Samrat who have very big kings under them and there's a system where each king has to pay one-third of their total revenue and so many thousands of soldiers to the bigger king. In this way the bigger kings always get bigger.

You realise if they want the two-thirds for them to keep, one may say when they're attacking some place, if the people fighting get defeated, they don't get anything. But say if they fight a little bit, then they really make a truce, make a treaty, then ______2.30 If he sees he might lose, so he makes a treaty, then, he may be kept there as the king for (inaudible) (mic sound). So this Mohammedan governor is like a little king.


‘eka sannyāsī āila jagannātha ha-ite

aneka siddha-puruṣa haya tāṅhāra sahita

The Muslim spy saw the wonderful characteristics of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and when he returned to the Muslim governor, he told him, “A mendicant has come from Jagannātha Purī with many liberated persons.

nirantara kare sabe kṛṣṇa-saṅkīrtana

sabe hāse, nāce, gāya, karaye krandana

“All these saintly people incessantly chant the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra, and they all laugh, dance, chant and cry.

lakṣa lakṣa loka āise tāhā dekhibāre

tāṅre dekhi’ punarapi yāite nāre ghare

“Many millions upon millions of people come to see Him, and after they see Him, they cannot return home.

sei saba loka haya bāulera prāya

‘kṛṣṇa’ kahi’ nāce, kānde, gaḍāgaḍi yāya

“All these people become like madmen. They simply chant the holy name of Kṛṣṇa and dance. Sometimes they even cry and roll on the ground.

Guru Maharaj: GADAGADI - roll. Haribol!

Devotee: HARIBOL!

kahibāra kathā nahe — dekhile se jāni

tāṅhāra prabhāve tāṅre ‘īśvara’ kari’ māni

“Actually these things cannot even be described. One can understand them only by seeing. Considering His influence, I accept Him as the Supreme Personality of Godhead.”

eta kahi’ sei cara ‘hari’ ‘kṛṣṇa’ gāya

hāse, kānde, nāce, gāya bāulera prāya

After saying this, the messenger, the Mohammedan spy, HE began to chant the holy names of Hari and Kṛṣṇa. (loudly)He also began to laugh and cry, dance and sing exactly like a madman.

eta śuni’ yavanera mana phiri’ gela

āpana-‘viśvāsa’ uḍiyā sthāne pāṭhāila

When the Muslim governor heard this, his mind changed. He then sent his secretary to the representative of the Orissan government.

‘viśvāsa’ āsiyā prabhura caraṇa vandila

‘kṛṣṇa’ ‘kṛṣṇa’ kahi’ preme vihvala ha-ila

The Muslim secretary came to see Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. When he offered his respects to the Lord’s lotus feet and uttered the holy name of the Lord, “Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa,” he also was overwhelmed with ecstatic love.

dhairya hañā uḍiyāke kahe namaskari’

‘tomā-sthāne pāṭhāilā mleccha adhikārī

After calming down, the Muslim secretary offered his respects and informed the representative of the Orissan government, “The Muslim governor has sent me here.

tumi yadi ājñā deha’ ethāke āsiyā

yavana adhikārī yāya prabhuke miliya

“If you agree, the Muslim governor will come here to meet Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu and then return.

bahuta utkaṇṭhā tāṅra, karyāche vinaya

tomā-sane ei sandhi, nāhi yuddha-bhaya'

“The Muslim governor is very eager, and he has submitted this petition with great respect. It is a proposal for peace. You need not fear that we will fight.”

śuni’ mahā-pātra kahe hañā vismaya

‘madyapa yavanera citta aiche ke karaya!

Upon hearing this proposal, the representative of the Orissan government, the mahā-pātra, was very much astonished. He thought, “The Muslim governor is a drunkard. Who has changed his mind?

āpane mahāprabhu tāṅra mana phirāila

darśana-smaraṇe yāṅra jagat tārila’

“It must be Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu Himself who has changed the Muslim’s mind. Due to His presence and even due to His remembrance, the whole world is liberated.”

Translation with repetition: (everyone repeats after Gurumaharaj)

“It must be Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu Himself who has changed the Muslim’s mind. Due to His presence and even due to His remembrance, the whole world is liberated.”


"From this we can understand that since the Muslim governor was a drunkard (madyapa), ordinarily there would have been no chance that he would change. But Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu could turn anyone’s mind to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. One can be delivered from material existence simply by remembering Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s holy name or by visiting Him. This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is being spread throughout the world, but not even one yavana or mleccha addicted to drinking could have changed and accepted Kṛṣṇa consciousness without Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s grace. People are often astonished to see many thousands of Westerners converted to Vaiṣṇavism. Generally Westerners are addicted to meat-eating, drinking, gambling and illicit sex; therefore their taking up Kṛṣṇa consciousness is astonishing. In India, especially, there is much astonishment at this. The answer, however, is given here: darśana-smaraṇe yāṅra jagat tārila. This change is made possible simply by the remembrance of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. The Western devotees are very sincerely chanting the holy names of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu and His associates: śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. By the mercy of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu and His associates, people are being purified and their consciousness directed from māyā to Kṛṣṇa.

The word viśvāsa refers to a secretary. This title is generally found among the kāyastha caste in the Hindu community. In Bengal, the title viśvāsa is still used by the kāyasthas. The word viśvāsa means “faithful,” and a viśvāsī is a person in whom one can place faith. Śrī Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura states that during the Muslim reign in Bengal, there was a secretariat entitled viśvāsa-khānā. The office of viśvāsa-khānā was a secretariat office in which only the most reliable people were employed. They were elected from the kāyastha community, a community that is still very expert in managing business and government affairs. The secretariat, or viśvāsa-khānā, is generally a very reliable and faithful servant. Whenever some confidential service was needed, these officers were employed."

Even the Mohammedan rulers, when they wanted some confidential work to be done they wanted one of these uhh, Hindus, viśvāsa's [to] do it. Visvasa or kāyasthas is a mixture between Brahmana and Kshatriya, and they're like administrators and, not in a political sense but like bureaucrats. Sometimes they say their Kshatriya and Vaishyas...(inaudible 10:52), some say their ... depends on different parts of India but, they're a little bit of a mix, but they have a part of a Kshatriya tendency and a part of another (inaudible) ... It's interesting that how, generally because of the Vedic culture the people are a little more peaceful.

They found that the people from the Vedic varnasrama system were more reliable. And in a story they ... one time the emperor of Bengal he was giving a big feast and so he would ... he said all the Mohammedans on one side, the emperor was Mohammedan, he'd met (?) all his Mohammedan generals and lords and whatnot on one side and then the other side all of his big, highly placed Hindu officers ... who were cooked and fed by Brahmanas and ____.

This serving prasad and cooking is a tradition of the Brahmanas. They generally do it. When the Brahmans cook everyone can take it. The sudras cook no other, you know, no ksatriyas or Brahman will take. So it is a custom that the Brahmanas would cook. There's special Brahmanas who, their service is cooking and offering to the deity. They cook, offer to the deity and then even the Brahmanas serve the prasad. Although they may not always be Brahmanas serving they usually cooked.

So there was after this big feast some of the Mohammedan generals came up to the king and said "Just see! We have finished all the food in our plates clean, but these Hindus, they left some of the things on their plates, they didn't eat everything." They criticized them like that. Then the king said, the emperor said that, "Yes. Just like if one of you assassinate me, then you all had not only kill me but you kill my wife, my children, my entire dynasty. But if they assassinate me, they try a coup, they'll just kill me and leave the rest of my family."

In the history of certain, many of the Islamic history had this kind of tendency where, there's some violence. Not so much in east in this part of India there was,

Even to this day we see that the most troubling part of the world, for some reason, is that Middle East. Their method is ______1329 Mohammed. Because certainly he gave very wonderful teachings and, but there's some, somewhere in the parampara, I heard that their ?worship/?wasn’t very strictly, uh, kept in line with Mohammedan teachings, he said many, contemporary politics, religion, many other things which were not followed so much later... I don't know why the history but, we can even see that at that time there was a difficulty. And at this time even the __________ with this uh, terrorist, or _______ Iraq, [of the] forty wars going on in the world about, a good number of percent, a high percentage of them are being done especially in those places.

So, uh, even though the rulers were Mohammedan they couldn't fully trust their, even their own sons because uh, many a time the son would kill the father and take over the throne. Couldn't wait till he got natural ascension. So it's a very, kind of a, I don't exactly you know, want to say anything or generalise, ____14.40 but still the culture is very much into eating meat and things like that. Maybe that's what gives them a little bit of additional passion. The point is that that not only was

Normally you see Mohammedans, if a person that’s a strictly religious Mohammedan won't drink. But this was a so called Mohammedan who was a drunkard. Like in Saudi Arabia there's no drinking allowed. Legally. They all fly to Bahrain previously was a British colony, and they have taverns, casinos, so they go there. I was visiting Bahrain during the Eid festival. There were thousands of Saudi Arabians who came in. Christmas time, you know, Christmas, their Eid, by whetting their palate, with the booze. So by this they're trying to prove that strictly if you follow the principles given by Mohammed you don't drink, you don't gamble, you don't do anything. But uh, there's not like a real positive alternative. There's no bliss uh, they have very strict, it's very strict, if you follow it uh, you can make a lot of advancement. But cause of the Kali Yuga and others desires, sometimes even ___ 500 years ago it's very hard to restrain himself. But this particular governor was actually a drunkard. He wasn't even a very strict, although he was Mohammedan which meant that there was no dietary restriction practically speaking. There was other little restrictions but at least drinking was one restriction but he didn't also follow that. He was even a drunkard so, he was pretty, kind of a, questionable character on top of that indicated that he was somewhat of a robber. Rob the pilgrims that travel on the road. So all in all the person was pretty much kind of a anti-social kind of element. Although he was in a very powerful position. But he was sending his own person over to Lord Chaitanya.

By hearing about Lord Chaitanya his mind had become changed. So then uh, certainly this is the mercy of Lord Chaitanya in the western world. A little bit different, of course, as the people uh, on the other hand are very attached to sense gratification and their minds are always disturbed. They're taking some, if there's a little bit of anxiety their natural tendency is take some intoxication to relieve it. If there's a little cold or urge from any of the senses they think that they immediately have to satisfy it. The idea that of austerity or controlling the mind and senses for a higher purpose apart, maybe for some period of cramming for exams for college, and maybe for some, you know, big, material effort they do it but for spiritual purposes it's not very visible in the modern world today.

But Lord Chaitanya's mercy came down through Srila Prabhupada, all the people were not very inclined to spiritual practices or austerity, because of the nectar of Lord Chaitanya's pastimes they started to feel that there’s a higher ecstasy, a higher happiness within the Krishna conscious practices and so as a result thousands and thousands of people took to Krishna Consciousness.

eta bali’ viśvāsere kahila vacana

“bhāgya tāṅra — āsi’ karuka prabhu daraśana

After thinking this, the mahā-pātra immediately informed the Muslim secretary, “It is a great fortune for your governor. Let him come visit Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

pratīta kariye — yadi nirastra hañā

āsibeka pāṅca-sāta bhṛtya saṅge lañā?

“However, let me make it understood that he should come here without weapons. He may bring with him five or seven servants.”

viśvāsa’ yāñā tāṅhāre sakala kahila

hindu-veśa dhari’ sei yavana āila

The secretary returned to the Muslim governor and informed him of this news. Dressing himself like a Hindu, the Muslim governor then came to see Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

dūra haite prabhu dekhi’ bhūmete paḍiyā

daṇḍavat kare aśru-pulakita hañā

Upon seeing Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu from a distant place, the Muslim governor fell to the ground and offered obeisances. Tears came to his eyes, and he was jubilant with ecstatic emotions.

Asru pulakita. Pulakita means that also, that uh, not only tears are coming from his eyes, but his hairs were also standing on its end out of ecstasy.

mahā-pātra ānila tāṅre kariyā sammāna

yoḍa-hāte prabhu-āge laya kṛṣṇa-nāma

Arriving in that way, the Muslim governor was respectfully brought before Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu by the mahā-pātra. The governor then stood before the Lord with folded hands, and he chanted the holy name of Kṛṣṇa.

“adhama yavana-kule kena janma haila

vidhi more hindu-kule kena nā janmāila

The governor then submissively asked, “Why was I born in a Muslim family? This is considered a low birth. Why didn’t supreme Providence grant me a birth in a Hindu family?

‘hindu’ haile pāitāma tomāra caraṇa-sannidhāna

vyartha mora ei deha, yāuka parāṇa”

“If I had taken birth in a Hindu family, it would have been easy for me to remain near Your lotus feet. Since my body is now useless, let me die immediately.”

eta śuni’ mahā-pātra āviṣṭa hañā

prabhuke karena stuti caraṇe dhariyā

Upon hearing the governor’s submissive statement, the mahā-pātra was overwhelmed with joy. He clasped the lotus feet of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu and began to offer the following prayers.

“Simply by hearing Your holy name, a caṇḍāla, the lowest of men, can be purified. Now this conditioned soul has received Your personal interview.

“It is no wonder that this Muslim governor has attained such results. Simply by seeing You, all this is possible.

This is from the Srimad Bhagavatam:

[yan-nāmadheya-śravaṇānukīrtanād yat-prahvaṇād yat-smaraṇād api kvacit śvādo ’pi sadyaḥ savanāya kalpate kutaḥ punas te bhagavan nu darśanāt]

“ ‘To say nothing of the spiritual advancement of persons who see the Supreme Person face to face, even a person born in a family of dog-eaters becomes immediately eligible to perform Vedic sacrifices if he once utters the holy name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead or chants about Him, hears about His pastimes, offers Him obeisances or even remembers Him.’ ”

So Prabhupada said that this is a quotation from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (3.33.6).

"According to this verse, it doesn’t matter what position a person holds. One may be the lowest of the low — a caṇḍāla, or even a dog-eater —"

They recently passed a law in the Philippines that no one should eat their pet dogs. Because it was making a bad publicity in America and other places when, you know, people would see their pet doggy Fido and the next day they would be on the dinner table. (devotees laughing) They're getting freaked out. So they thought that, they can kill the cow but no, they can't kill the pet dog. (Guru Maharaj laughing)

But, um, people who are dog eaters, you can smell them, they smell like dogs, _______ (23:00)

Audience: laughing

Pig eaters! You know even the dog eaters look down on the pig eaters.

Audience laughing loudly

Guru Maharaj laughing

They are dog eaters. Even the Mohammedan won't eat, even the Mohammedan, they never eat pigs. (audience laughs).

So here it said that even the lowest of the low, if he takes to the chanting and hearing the holy name of the Lord, he immediately is eligible to perform Vedic sacrifices. This is especially true in this age of Kali.

harer nāma harer nāma harer nāmaiva kevalam

kalau nāsty eva nāsty eva nāsty eva gatir anyathā

(Bṛhan-nāradīya Purāṇa 38.1.6)

A person born in a brāhmaṇa family cannot perform Vedic sacrifices until he is properly purified and has attained his sacred thread. However, according to this verse it is understood that even a lowborn person can immediately perform sacrifices if he sincerely chants and hears the holy name of the Lord. Sometimes envious people ask how Europeans and Americans in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement can become brāhmaṇas and perform sacrifices. They do not know that the Europeans and Americans have already been purified by chanting the holy name of the Lord — Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare. This is the proof. Śvādo ’pi sadyaḥ savanāya kalpate. One may be born in a family of dog-eaters, but he can perform sacrifices simply by chanting the mahā-mantra.

Those who find fault in the Western Vaiṣṇavas should consider this statement from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and the commentary on this verse by Śrīla Jīva Gosvāmī. In this regard, Śrīla Jīva Gosvāmī has stated that to become a brāhmaṇa one has to wait for purification and undergo the sacred thread ceremony, ceremony. But a chanter of the holy name does not have to wait for the sacred thread ceremony. We do not allow devotees to perform sacrifices until they are properly initiated in the sacred thread ceremony. Yet according to this verse, an offenseless chanter of the holy name is already fit to perform a fire sacrifice, even though he is not doubly initiated by the sacred thread ceremony. This is the verdict given by Lord Kapiladeva in his instructions to his mother, Devahuti. It was Lord Kapiladeva who instructed Devahuti in pure Sāṅkhya philosophy.

Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu then:

tabe mahāprabhu tāṅre kṛpā-dṛṣṭi kari’

āśvāsiyā kahe, — tumi kaha ‘kṛṣṇa’ ‘hari’

Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu then glanced with mercy at the Muslim governor. Giving him assurance, He asked him to chant the holy names “Kṛṣṇa” and “Hari.”


It is Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s mercy that He advises everyone — even caṇḍālas, mlecchas and yavanas — to chant the holy name of the Lord. In other words, one who has taken to chanting the holy names “Kṛṣṇa” and “Hari” has already received Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s mercy. The Lord’s request to chant the holy name of Kṛṣṇa is now extended to everyone in the world through the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. Whoever follows Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s instructions will certainly be purified, and one who sincerely chants the holy name offenselessly is already more than a brāhmaṇa. Unfortunately there are many fools and rascals in India who do not follow, allow Western Vaiṣṇavas to enter certain temples. Such rascals do not clearly understand the Vedas. As stated previously, yan-nāmadheya-śravaṇānukīrtanād . . .

Prabhupada used these very strong words to describe the persons who don't let the western devotees enter their temple. There are many fools and rascals who do not allow western Vaishnavas. So that is regarding the priests, it's only one or two temples that don't allow western devotees to go inside. There are big signs outside, (inaudible) "Only for Hindus", if they allow the western devotees to go,

Of course we're not even a caste Hindu, in that sense. We can follow the Vedic culture, even from our point of view the Hindu dharma has deviated from the strict Vedic culture. But you know from the point of view of like the Mohammedan governor and all this ______(inaudible 28.03) all Hindu, it's hard for them to differentiate. But there is a difference between Vaishnavism and Hinduism. Hinduism is a kind of a mix. Vaishnavism is the pure path of devotional service to Vishnu. It's the pure worship of the Supreme Personality, devotional yoga and so on. It's the culmination, the creme, according to the authorities.

So this Mohammedan governor was praying for liberation, that he had committed so many sinful activities by being envious of brāhmaṇas and Vaiṣṇavas and killing cows.

So in the purport Prabhupada said [it's] very sinful to do such things, by [the] great karma that one gets, but by practising Krishna Consciousness or chanting the holy name, one can be relieved of all these karmas and thats __________(29.10) serve Krishna.

See, I was riding in Air Panama from, flying to Ecuador to Panama City. I was sitting next to two people who were sitting right near me. They were both slightly intoxicated.

(background interference)

I wanted that, he had some cookies, prasad, so I offered him and one took the cookie prasad, one not next to me but sitting, very fully crowded flight, I was in the middle seat [in an] uncomfortable kind of position. But the person sitting over, he took a little prasad. But the one next to him said “Nah I don’t need that stuff”________29.55.....

and every time i was doing this ? the girl would go buywas ___________

He was an old guy, 50, 50 years old, but he had his shirt open down to here, you know a little hair and he had a big gold chain, and little chubby you know, he's a real you know, debauchee kind of guy, you know.

Gold chain down to his chest, every girl was,

(everybody laughs)

whole kind of thing, so then you know, I offer him some kind of things, I offered him, "I gave the other guy this book", he was a little bit friendly but this person said, "nah nah I don't believe, I'm an atheist, I don't believe all that stuff." So this is a tendency of a person who is very addicted to sense gratification, intoxication, drinking. The tendency is that they're not very eager for this type of spiritual activity, just the opposite of, you know, they're totally just single you know, they’re just focused on their sensual things, they can’t understand, you know, they're just like “Wait, why do you think that appears to be spiritual?”

So here it's nice that it brings up this point that uh, when one becomes free from ones karma, one becomes eager to serve the Lord. After being relieved by the mercy of the Lord then one becomes eager. So this quality of a person who is actually eager to chant Hare Krishna, eager to, someone says "what is the symptom that I've been freed from karma" you see, as a person whose chanting he's becoming relieved from that mentality where one is just like, swayed by whatever way their senses, or any object close by, you know they're just completely out of control, then uh, instead they become eager to serve the Lord and they're not so affected by every, uh stimulus that happens to go by.

Not that there's no effect, you know not that we become stones or something, but there may be some desire that comes in the mind but it's described in the Bhagavad Gita that just like the rivers that are constantly flowing into the ocean, the desires of the self-controlled, self-realised soul, they're coming constantly like that, but their mind is always steady. Because it's fixed on the absolute truth, even though so many thoughts and desires come one after another, they don't dwell on those, self-realized soul doesn't get affected by those, he remains fixed in his Krishna Consciousness, and the desires that cause it to come and go, he doesn’t allow himself to be ______ (32.53) or misled by that.

I didn't realise, very long story. Very interesting though.

(16.190 translation)

Then Mukunda Datta then told the Muslim governor, “My dear sir, please hear. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu wishes to go to the bank of the Ganges.”

(16.189 purport)

Since the Muslim governor was immediately purified in the presence of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, he could utter the names of Kṛṣṇa and Hari. Consequently he was eager to render some service, and the Lord, eager to fulfill his desires, immediately had the devotee Mukunda Datta inform the governor that there was some service to render.

This is the test. Some people say how can I know when it’s (*?) the test, When a person’s is able to chant Hare Krishna and able to, uh , free from their karmas and they're able to chant, with some enthusiasm, that itself is a very good sign it’s not an ordinary thing, very good sign. -- so they're requesting the governor to give assistance to Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.

"After this, the Muslim governor offered prayers to the lotus feet of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, as well as to the lotus feet of all His devotees. After that, the governor departed. Indeed, he was very pleased."

The governor by serving the lord, he became very pleased.

Before the governor left, the mahā-pātra embraced him and offered him many material gifts. He thus established a friendship with him. (inaudible) Notice how he embraces maha … Why? He got the mercy of lord Chaitanya. Even five hundred years ago. Even though he was a mahapatra, a very highly placed government officer, caste in the varnashrama system, they never embrace or touch a Mohammedan, you know ____(35.15), they would not like to embrace them because they’re not very clean, but he embraced because he thought, he accepted that, since he accepted Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu by chanting the names Krishna and Hari he was purified. So even 500 years ago you can see this little unity, they accepted that if someone was purified they become a devotee.

"The next morning the governor sent his secretary with many nicely decorated boats to bring Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu to the other side of the river."


The Mahapatra

river was very deep. The rupanarayana river. (interference) was almost a mile long. But it’s not very deep. Maybe only 20 feet deep. But It has water all year long, it was very wide river. So that’s why this was the border, this was the border of the uh, Orissa, because it was a very formidable barrier, in terms of that type of warfare that they had five hundred years ago, so that it would form the natural boundary, which was easier to defend.

(conchshell is being blowed)

___ The other side of the river. This time the Mohammedan governor himself worshipped Lord Chaitanya, he put Lord Chaitanya in a brand new boat, and took him down to the Ganges, and they accompanied Lord Chaitanya to protect him from pirates.

We are going to be going to all these places, there’s a padayatra, celebrating Lord Chaitanya’s. Thank you!

Ys, Snigdhamayi Sudevi Devi DasiKolkata,ind

2nd transcriber Your servant, Ashwin Sharma, Melbourne, Australia